Gary: Hello! Everybody, welcome to Wine Library TV, I am your host Gary Vaynerchuk and this my friends is the Thunder Show a.k.a the internet’s most passionate wine program and it is the Fathers Day edition of the Thunder Show. I know you know him, at least the far majority of you. This is my wonderful father Sasha Vaynerchuk.
Sasha: And what about grandfather.
Gary: And well, you know, and grandfather.
Sasha: Yeah, father and grandfather right.
Gary: Yes, you are.
Sasha: Okay.
Gary: You’re now a grandfather.
Sasha: I’m now a grandfather, proud grandfather.
Gary: Thanks for being on the show dad.
Sasha: Anytime.
Gary: Appreciate it, do you have any opening words for the Vayner nation.
Sasha: Yeah, we’ll talked about us. We decided not to about politics.
Gary: No politics.
Sasha: No politics.
Gary: All right.
Sasha: Okay and happy Father’s Day and many, many more to come and all of the best to all you fathers and grandfathers and you know all the best in health of course comes first.
Gary: Happy father’s day, dad.
Sasha: Yeah, happy fathers day to you.
Gary: Yeah, my first one.
Sasha: First one.
Gary: We got some wine here.
Sasha: Well before we get to the wine, the list of my appearance on the show. I don’t remember what exactly the date but I was raving about some Portuguese wine—where’s my glasses? When you become a grandfather you need glasses. And this wine is from Portugal, 2007 what is this?
Gary: Palmela.
Sasha: Palmela, would have it, would have it the store, okay, we’ll run a little charity in here and the wine was very good. Mind you we just did a little with research and the wine is retail about, retails $89.00.
Gary: What kind of grapes are in here dad?
Sasha: I don’t even know.
Gary: Is that not relevant.
Sasha: No.
Gary: It’s a wine show dad.
Sasha: I know, I know but.
Gary: Keeps a piece of $9.00 in there.
Sasha: No, but I’m not saying, you know, I’m not here to sell first of all.
Gary: That’s not selling that’s information that they might want to know.
Sasha: Should I leave now.
Gary: No dad, I’m not going to say, it’s the most relevant question of all time.
Sasha: You know, I mean it’s amazing, it’s amazing.
Gary: Yeah, I thought that that was a very wouldn’t you up for me.
Sasha: I mean I have known—I did not do a research on the grapes.
Gary: I understand.
Sasha: I didn’t do anything I just in the viewers.
Gary: I’m not trying to hurt feelings.
Sasha: The vayner media asked for what wine.
Gary: Vayner media is mine and each of the company. I am getting a little mixed up.
Sasha: I get a little mixed up. The wine was very good.
Gary: You like it, what happened? You mentioned that you had a great Portuguese wine.
Sasha: Right.
Gary: And then I know you read the comments 50 times every time you’re on right? You like the reaction.
Sasha: I thought so all the time when I watch.
Gary: The show.
Sasha: The show.
Gary: You don’t watch otherwise.
Sasha: Yeah, I do.
Gary: What do we have here, get on the camera the people love you too all right, I mean why don’t you show all the favorites, show off.
Mott: Yeah, we had a little.
Gary: We have other time for another she-show together.
Mott: Yeah, we got some going in right now.
Gary: All right, so what do we have here.
Mott: Little from Lazy Lady Farm, organic it’s cow and goats.
Gary: Well yeah, I see that right.
Mott: It’s a fresh goat cheese.
Gary: Is this is the goat cheese in the middle?
Mott: Dead center.
Gary: The cow.
Mott: And a really nice and rich buttery cow it’s in washed.
Gary: What are you doing?
Sasha: I’m.
Gary: You’re taking the goat part out.
Sasha: Yeah.
Mott: It’s clinically inspired it’s a by partisan, so I don’t know if he is making some sort of political statement by everything half of that.
Gary: Right.
Mott: And then also we have just a Triple-cream from France a rich delicious to crème.
Gary: I had so much of this yesterday at the Maynard Event, I was like getting it left and right.
Mott: That was really a popular one and then on this one we had a goat cheese that was quoted with a fig. And Constablis from—Farm in Vermont.
Gary: Thank you so much it’s great, thank you, thank you the grapes are not in bad myth all right, so --
Sasha: You’re on.
Gary: They are, okay, so.
Sasha: What does that say? Produced --
Gary: Castella.
Sasha: Castella grape from the Palmela Region aged for 9 months on oak barrels.
Gary: There we go.
Sasha: This wine is spicy and full of flavor the wine was very good.
Gary: Do you agree, was it spicy dad?
Sasha: No, I didn’t find too much of a spice but I find the wine is very approachable, very easy to drink and I finish the whole thing.
Gary: In one shot?
Sasha: In one shot.
Gary: Did mom drink any of it?
Sasha: I send it up and gave her a little.
Gary: So basically you drink the whole bottle by yourself.
Sasha: Right.
Gary: Was it a good experience.
Sasha: Very good.
Gary: Well worth the $9.00.
Sasha: Right.
Gary: Yeah, awesome we have three wines here today dad. One we have the La Mission Haut-Brion from yesterday, I said we’d drink it 24 hours later were now in that spot we’ll get to that last. We have two wines here dad you brought any particular.
Sasha: From my cellar.
Gary: Yeah.
Sasha: From my cellar.
Gary: From your cellar any particular reason?
Sasha: No reason, it’s the wine that I didn’t drink before it’s been sitting in the cellar for quite sometime.
Gary: Which one?
Sasha: Both of them.
Gary: You’ve never had either?
Sasha: No.
Gary: You never had the Salvestrin.
Sasha: No.
Gary: Never had it?
Sasha: No.
Gary: Or to clove it?
Sasha: I’m to cheap, some on my self not that my children or other, just seem to drink expensive win but on the things that there are especial.
Gary: There’s $35 and $50, that’s expensive.
Sasha: Yeah, but I like, you know, $9.
Gary: I agree, all right, let’s get the first one Mott, Salvestrin 2004 Napa Valley Cab a state grown $35 90 points wine enthusiast.
Sasha: Can I ask you a question?
Gary: Yeah.
Sasha: $35 you know that’s quartering ones be able to thinking about that when I like this.
Gary: You said you didn’t watch the show.
Sasha: When I like this, discovery, no discovery channels and say do archeological discovers.
Gary: Yeah.
Sasha: They found is bones.
Gary: Right.
Sasha: It’s reminds what you know some of the 35 bones.
Gary: Bones is slang for dollars.
Sasha: Right, but it’s also you know, when we say discover, you know, this people we’ll buy thousands and thousands that is always—I think we should change.
Gary: What the illation? You mean me I should change.
Sasha: But if I probable sources.
Gary: 35 of those would be a good price. All right let’s get into color very dark, great color right?
Sasha: My glass gets spots and I washed them, I hate spots, I don’t like spots in my glass.
Gary: What do you get in the sniffy-sniff, what the heck was that?
Sasha: A lot of fruit you know.
Gary: I agree.
Sasha: Right.
Gary: Tons.
Sasha: A lot of fruit.
Gary: Almost candy like, like a lots of strawberries, black berries, raspberries very thingy.
Sasha: You know, like a fruit dish or you know you go Caska and you buy.
Gary: It’s smells like fruit punch.
Sasha: Right.
Gary: It’s so.
Sasha: Right.
Gary: Yeah, very candyiesc on the nose.
Sasha: We agree on something for a change.
Gary: Dad we agree on a lot of things.
Sasha: Just like the squashier Chile and—.
Gary: That was a month ago. No, this really comes across like fruit salad, there is a very bright fruit almost like a fruit punch artificial like very, very big nose, let’s give it a whirl.
Sasha: Not a chance, I couldn’t verify a bottle of those and the vodka too, I mean are you kidding me.
Gary: Sorry, dad.
Sasha: I’m sorry I’m not rich like you are.
Gary: Please.
Sasha: I don’t sign seven-figured book deals and all that stuff.
Gary: Right, right, do you want me to start calling you add early I mean you want me to go, you want to go you want to go. All right, what do you think?
Sasha: I like it but it gives me a little bit more factor.
Gary: Okay.
Sasha: You have no time the wine is good.
Gary: For my dad and the Vayner Nation unlimited time.
Sasha: That’s good.
Gary: Do you find it a little bit too oak monster because very oaky. I feel like I ate a piece of wood, it is delicious factor it’s also hot. The alcohols is coming through a lot.
Sasha: Yeah, I don’t know why, you know why?
Gary: Why?
Sasha: It’s not been open for a long enough.
Gary: Yeah, well you just pop them.
Sasha: I just pop them.
Gary: We pop it you know.
Sasha: I brewed them from the house; it was sitting in my office.
Gary: It is definitely popping for but I don’t think that’s really bothering the alcohol, maybe the tannins, it’s 14, it’s probably getting closer to 15%. I mean to me its pretty oaky, this is classic textbook Carbernet if you drink this, right you would, I mean you’re the Carbernet drinker dad.
Sasha: Yeah, I am.
Gary: I think it’s pretty oaky.
Sasha: Actually, I love Amarone.
Gary: Amarone me too.
Sasha: Yeah, I forgot to bring them here.
Gary: That what you should have brought.
Sasha: Yeah.
Gary: To me.
Sasha: Next time.
Gary: Next time.
Sasha: If it’s going to be next time.
Gary: No, no you’ve been, this has been tremendous.
Sasha: Yeah.
Gary: It’s cool, I teach them well.
Sasha: As long as there is no politics.
Gary: I think it’s going well, do you.
Sasha: Not to politics.
Gary: Listen.
Sasha: Actually I have a good topic for it.
Gary: I love, I love the fruit is very pure and very jammy, almost like jam, you know, dad I don’t know if you tasting it, you’re eating so much food. I mean you know, I mean I like that but like are you really.
Sasha: I’m hungry.
Gary: I know you’re always hungry, you don’t eat breakfast or lunch.
Sasha: Right, right.
Gary: You taught me a bad habit, I don’t either and now I’m not healthy because of you. Dad so come on, is the alcohol bothering you or you could keep.
Sasha: A little bit.
Gary: Me too right.
Sasha: But I’m hoping, I’ll finish the bottle tonight.
Gary: I’m sure and it will probably the better.
Sasha: Maybe two.
Gary: All right, now there is three here dad wine, wine. Dad it’s definitely has too much alcohol, I think its off balance, I don’t like the oak either, I don’t like the oak.
Sasha: I think it good though.
Gary: You don’t mind oak though, you like oak.
Sasha: I like oak.
Gary: Yeah.
Sasha: Oak trees.
Gary: Oak tree root, when we live in Edison, I definitely feel it’s over oaked the alcohol is bothering me. I like the fruit it’s pretty pure and I do agree with dad, you know two, three, four, five hours open the canting there will be definitely more things going on. There some black cherry going on here but to me I disagree with the wine enthusiast at least that scores more like an 87.
Sasha: They get some.
Gary: Even a 90 I think it’s more like an 87 or 86 point type Carbernet $35 the alcohol is definitely initiative for me. And I don’t think that’s going to go too well.
Sasha: I was holding my score of judgments tonight.
Gary: Okay.
Sasha: I’m going to be able to worry you know comfortable.
Gary: Doing that, all right let’s rinse it dad. Please rinse.
Sasha: How much is this one.
Gary: This one is $50.
Sasha: Enough.
Gary: I know, I know, I know. You had two bibs to get; I think I did one too. Clark-Claudon, yes there sediment dad, there is a little filtering at the top. Anyway Clark-Claudon $50 US 2004 vintage, 100% Carbernet which you know it’s doesn’t happened often because you're giving a lot of that blend thousand foot evolution really high mountain fruit. $50 far from inexpensive the wine that I bought from Noa-Basse years ago and brought it to the store with a 94 vintage it start getting big scores.
Sasha: It’s a long time.
Gary: It’s a long time ago, it starts getting big scores from parker it became one of the cultier Carbernet and I’m excited to see how it works out right now. Good color again really nice and pretty color we have got the big ass glass. This is your normal glass at home dad or no.
Sasha: No, I have a bigger one.
Gary: This one.
Sasha: No, I have the bigger one.
Gary: Version of that.
Sasha: Well yeah the bigger.
Gary: What are the things going on here on the nose?
Sasha: It’s not the same as the one before but it’s not bad.
Gary: Yeah, no not bad at all.
Sasha: Right.
Gary: Right, definitely not as over the top root.
Sasha: Yeah.
Gary: Right, I agree. I get really interesting like grape candy, like grape juice, like you know like purple grape like almost like I was talking about purple paint what that would smell like I get a lot of that on the nose here very grape oriented. Not like the artificial grape not like the grape you know. There is also kind of like a mustard kind of thing going on right. The kind of like the musky kind of aspect to it on the back of the nose.
Sasha: Yes.
Gary: Isn’t that weird.
Sasha: Very different from.
Gary: Yeah, it’s kind of neat actually, like a cave, like the mines you have in the backyard.
Sasha: Right.
Gary: From the civil war.
Sasha: I do.
Gary: I know and that huge estate you have. All right let’s give it a whirl.
Sasha: Well.
Gary: I like this wine more it’s good.
Sasha: Yeah, it’s balanced.
Gary: That’s exactly right. I totally agree with you. I think you hit it out of the park dad.
Sasha: I see.
Gary: You're the best dad ever, I love you with all my heart and you're unstoppable.
Sasha: I am, what a waste it’s very funny when I read there is a comments and somebody wrote a comment you're dad is very laid back in all my 55 years I never been accused being a laid back.
Gary: I think you project a different persona in the Wine Library TV than you do in the outside world. Do you feel that’s the point?
Sasha: Which wine distributors?
Gary: Well Vayner distributors, yeah, for sure.
Sasha: All right.
Gary: Is that true or would you say, no?
Sasha: Yeah, of course.
Gary: Give more chill the camera, you relax, you're a chill guy there we go.
Sasha: That’s it.
Gary: You're all right I mean you know.
Sasha: This is why I don’t talk about politics of course.
Gary: This is a --
Sasha: You know.
Gary: No, listen I.
Sasha: Listen to what?
Gary: It’s a date and let’s talk about religion, why not let’s go over the God stuff, wiping around.
Sasha: I have no problem to talk about anything.
Gary: That’s the problem, dad I do really do, I think this wine I massively balanced.
Sasha: Very good, I say it is the only place you can find to my cellar.
Gary: This wines is really good cranberries, it taste a lot cranberry food on the back end great firm tannins, great polish, really shows you. It wasn’t open that long either, same as that, shows you that to complete different pedigree than the last wine.
Sasha: It’s very good.
Gary: Great focus, treats and acts like a Bordeaux like kind of wine actually. But has some of that sunshine fruit that you love about California. The back end has like a chocolate, dark chocolate flavor almost like a candy bar play. Mix it with that red cranberry fruit this is a fantastic wine I adore the balance.
Sasha: 95-96 points.
Gary: I’ll go 91 plus points but you know everybody has they're own.
Sasha: Like you said to your, Vayniacs you know trust your wine don’t listen to Gary.
Gary: Trust you own pallet, absolutely, don’t listen to Sasha.
Sasha: Sasha.
Gary: You know don’t listen to Sasha.
Sasha: No, you can listen to Sasha.
Gary: Don’t definitely know but you know I mean the fact the matters is trust you palate. And here’s the bottom line, it’s a very good bottle of Cabernet if you come across the ’04 Clark-Claudon you’re definitely going to get a wine that brings a lot of thunder to the table. I really like this wine I’ll actually going to go 92 plus I’m going to be closer to you. All right let’s move on, as I get older dad, I become more like you, you know, right is that what you think?
Sasha: Is that it, no.
Gary: Dad we have, dad you can’t, sorry cut it quickly. Not, not slow, you eat dinner for like 9 hours that’s your style.
Sasha: Yeah, do they have to drink a half of bottle wine.
Gary: It takes some time.
Sasha: Right.
Gary: Very good you just made all of America very happy. All right let’s move on lets rinse. Dad you also before wine let’s get a little more into you, a little bit, do you need a better rinse to that you didn’t rinse one time.
Sasha: I did.
Gary: No you didn’t, I watched you rinse, thank you dad. I don’t even know where I’m at that you also drink other beverages in your career.
Sasha: Right, absolutely.
Gary: Seriously Dad you like the Cognac I remember.
Sasha: I also drink Cognac but I stopped.
Gary: You didn’t.
Sasha: I start with Vodka.
Gary: But you didn’t drink a lot, you didn’t drink a lot you always Cognac better than Vodka right? Why?
Sasha: Well, what, well because in Russia they hardly had any good Cognac so I used to you know the society was drinking Vodka. They still do.
Gary: Yeah.
Sasha: I was watching a program actually but since we came to this country and since I got involved in the business and I could have ordered a little bit more expensive beverage, I start drinking Cognac. And then slowly, gradually I move on to drinking wine and that.
Gary: Why?
Sasha: I didn’t know I guess my palate in you know developed when I think I enjoy more in drinking wine. And I don’t remember the last time I mean it’s got to be 20 years 15 years who knows, but when I drank hard.
Gary: It’s been a long time.
Sasha: A long time.
Gary: A long time.
Sasha: Wine that’s it, that’s all I drink.
Gary: The La Mission Haut-Brion 2004 $115 90 points Parker, 24 hours later we did on the show yesterday and let’s give it a sniffy-sniff.
Sasha: Who owns sniffy-sniff?
Gary: What’s that?
Sasha: Who owns?
Gary: Who owns, sniffy-sniff, well nobody owns sniffy-sniff nothing to own.
Sasha: All of that, let me give a little bit here.
Gary: Oh, you mean the trademark.
Sasha: Yeah.
Gary: Yeah, I do.
Sasha: You do.
Gary: Yeah, yeah, that’s me.
Sasha: Well we’ll talk about that.
Gary: Okay, you want to negotiate after that I came with it. What do you smell in those?
Sasha: It’s a typical Bordeaux but you know.
Gary: It’s more vegetal right.
Sasha: Yeah.
Gary: It’s not. You like the fruit.
Sasha: Yeah.
Gary: You like the sunshine.
Sasha: I like my country I think that, you know what that’s a good one. I think I prefer California, but that’s crazy actually you know the fruity, the oak—.
Gary: Well then you should move to Australia.
Sasha: That’s so far, once is enough.
Gary: One big move right?
Sasha: Yes.
Gary: Yeah, I mean so compared to yesterday the red fruit has definitely become more up than muskiness that dirtiness that we smelled yesterday subsided. It’s more about the fruit; there is some vegetal play this is like sour cherries meets broccoli. I like the nose today it’s very focused. It’s a little bit like a dirty, kind of like that just a little bit.
Sasha: You know it’s funny it’s like.
Gary: Like mosque, like flour right?
Sasha: That’s its funny.
Gary: It is funny right. It smell like—s
Sasha: That exactly what.
Gary: Crazy right, like sod, like planting like --
Sasha: Right.
Gary: Yeah, absolutely, all right let’s give it a whirl.
Sasha: Not bad, not bad but you know a $115.
Gary: You’re paying for the name, you know about that kind of stuff dad.
Sasha: Right, yeah, that’s none sense, right.
Gary: Right.
Sasha: That’s none sense you know.
Gary: I though you understand.
Sasha: Of course.
Gary: At the end of the day.
Sasha: Just trying to entice me through some.
Gary: No, not doing anything, I just love my dad. I’m just here with my dad others, here’s the bottom line.
Sasha: No arguments.
Gary: This is a much better wine than it was yesterday once again proving it’s the moment, it’s not the time just like maybe the Salvestrin tomorrow or when dad has it tonight. It’ll be a much better wine, it’s opened up dramatically, this wine was really difficult yesterday I actually didn’t even rate it on the show, yesterday. I did not rate it I did the first time.
Sasha: And I didn’t watch the show. And I said that’s why Salvestrin today because I want to.
Gary: Yeah, but it’s much more opened up there’s a lot more going on with the wine. It’s much more complex, it’s more expensive.
Sasha: I agree.
Gary: It’s got character.
Sasha: No question about that.
Gary: It’s like when you’ve long.
Sasha: Not me.
Gary: Yeah, it got more characters you get their use and it’s more experience, you just told me its experience right there’s value.
Sasha: Yeah, when we have children you’re going to start understanding them better and you know that’s it.
Gary: My dads dream in life is for my child, my children although to come into my business and cause trouble for me, is that true dad, is that one of your goals in life?
Sasha: Yeah, absolutely.
Gary: Why would you be?
Sasha: And I want to be around.
Gary: Well you got to start taking care of yourself. And how often do you exercise?
Sasha: Not too often but I drink wine really just lay out for everything.
Gary: Do you exercise?
Sasha: No.
Gary: Okay.
Sasha: I walked to the property I chase chickens.
Gary: Chickens.
Sasha: I chase the chicken.
Gary: You get rid of chickens, I hear.
Sasha: I still have it. It’s the fox that got couple of chickens yesterday.
Gary: Were you upset.
Sasha: Of course I’m upset.
Gary: Do you want to get that, tell them that story when you caught the hawk in a chicken coop.
Sasha: You don’t know what happened a couple of days ago? I have quail, quails a little quails, okay yes I got them.
Gary: My Dad has a small farm; he’s just a humble man.
Sasha: So I had quails and one of the quail get out to play a loop. And I seen down the field, I see the quail running a little quail and all of the sudden two hawks came down.
Gary: And grabbed it.
Sasha: And grabbed it.
Gary: That’s insane.
Sasha: And one hold grips the quail, I was standing here and I start running.
Gary: You start chasing the hawk.
Sasha: Yeah, yeah.
Gary: What are you going to do?
Sasha: If I got him just like when you remember the story I took the hawk, I captured.
Gary: My dad caught, a hawk flew into the chicken coop.
Sasha: No, not it was pigeons.
Gary: I know.
Sasha: Well not this hawk was going at the pigeons.
Gary: Here’s the bottom line we over and he showed us and we looked and that hawk looked at us like this. Do you remember?
Sasha: Yes.
Gary: My dad is like “Look at the hawk” I looked at that hawk looked over us like. “Let me tell you son of bitches what’s going to happen.” I first time I get a shot at you, you’re both dead. I swore that hawk was going to take your eyes out.
Sasha: I know and I grabbed him, right.
Gary: What do you mean grabbed him?
Sasha: Don’t you remember how I let him out?
Gary: You didn’t grab the hawk.
Sasha: I swear I did, what are you talking about.
Gary: I wasn’t there, you grabbed the hawk.
Sasha: I took the hawk from the inside with my gloves and I let him out.
Gary: And he chilled.
Sasha: Yeah.
Gary: That’s insane.
Sasha: Gary come on.
Gary: I wasn’t there, I never heard that story.
Sasha: AJ was there.
Gary: It must be AJ. I think it was AJ and I?
Sasha: Yeah, a little bit, a lot bigger I mean that you.
Gary: That’s a good one.
Sasha: So I took.
Gary: Dad you walked into the coop and you grabbed the hawk.
Sasha: Yes, yes.
Gary: And the hawk was fine.
Sasha: Yeah, then Mark came to visit. I kept.
Gary: I know you're friend of Mark from Los Angeles.
Sasha: Right, I kept them; you know I kept them to that thought.
Gary: Because you want to show off a lot.
Sasha: Yeah, right and everybody.
Gary: Are you a good show off you would say?
Sasha: No, never.
Gary: Okay, you did show off a little bit.
Sasha: Very lucky.
Gary: But you showed up the hawk.
Sasha: Yeah, because he likes animals, he got birds and you know so I took this hawk and I let him out and they said it was very dangerous.
Gary: I mean a hawk came down grab the pigeon.
Sasha: Not the pigeon, the quail.
Gary: I mean the quail.
Sasha: And I was running across the field that’s an exercise too, that’s considered and exercise.
Gary: I wish.
Sasha: And I tried to nail them.
Gary: You nailed the hawk.
Sasha: Yeah.
Gary: What are you going to nail it with?
Sasha: It was a big one you know.
Mott: Big, nasty
Sasha: Yeah, big and nasty.
Gary: Nasty.
Sasha: I gave it a cursed.
Gary: And what happened it just took it away.
Sasha: Yeah.
Gary: And.
Sasha: Two of them.
Gary: And that’s it, so that’s the hawk story. All right let me show you on much better wine today 90-93 point wine. Definitely changed my perception of what I’ve thought it was going to do yesterday, opened up dramatically more, it has some great sour cherry some cedar box in the back end. Great length very complex bottle of Bordeaux, you can definitely see the difference in palate rate, you just, just can.
Sasha: Don’t leave, don’t leave.
Gary: I will try to hold down the floor down without you.
Sasha: Please and leave me some food.
Gary: I love my dad. I hope you guys are fortunate to have your dad around. I’ve been very blessed to have all this years to work with my dad and get to know him especially since we started to get to know each other later in life. So I hope that all of you have the best father’s day I definitely will. First I’m with my great dad and dad.
Sasha: What I’m not trying to what I have it.
Gary: No, no I understand.
Sasha: No.
Gary: Okay.
Sasha: My son all worry what you know how do I put it, we should not remote to anything what we have in an inventory you know it’s not good I don’t know. We’ll run it like a charity—this things. This Amarone, I had with a friend of mine in New York City and in a restaurant.
Gary: Okay.
Sasha: I bought this bottle Amarone.
Gary: Okay.
Sasha: He’s a big wine collector, big time. And he brought some old Burgundies and old Bordeaux and I brought this Amarone.
Gary: Walter/
Sasha: Yeah, Walt.
Gary: When did you go?
Sasha: I don’t know, two months ago.
Gary: Okay.
Sasha: We went to a restaurant and what is that?
Gary: Soho.
Sasha: Well it’s in.
Gary: Soho.
Sasha: Soho, I think there it is, right tell you what.
Gary: Tell me the story.
Sasha: So he pulled all those great old wines and we taste them all. And I brought this bottle, I don’t even how I got it, I don’t, we don’t have for them so we open the bottle of wine that’s an Amarone with your 2001, right.
Gary: Zoom in Mott.
Sasha: The wine was not good, it’s was absolutely phenomenal and I was, I didn’t even know how much it is.
Gary: Right.
Sasha: I was thinking, Walter asked me how this much this wine. I said that I’m sure but I think $60-$70-$80 that’s a buck 50.
Gary: It’s expensive.
Sasha: It’s expensive but this Amarone was the highlight of the night.
Gary: Do you think you’re seduced by Amarone by the little sweetness that an Amarone makes at the table?
Sasha: Maybe, maybe.
Gary: I like it too.
Sasha: But I want you to know Walter is into, you know just the Bordeaux and Burgundies whatever.
Gary: Very serious.
Sasha: He was very serious he was blown away.
Gary: Dad a $150 I mean that’s expensive.
Sasha: I think that’s all over priced, I think they just you know --
Gary: Well you think anything over $20 is overpriced.
Sasha: That’s true but I think this wine is—what I’m trying to say I’m comparing this wine to this wine.
Gary: To this wine.
Sasha: And I know a lot of people you know squared buy a Bordeaux but this wine as a drinking wine right now is out of this world.
Gary: What would score the La Mission Haut-Brion?
Sasha: It’s not going to be a fair score because of the reputation.
Gary: No, no score it the way you’d score it.
Sasha: I don’t know, first of all I wouldn’t pay a $150 for this wine and what, okay.
Gary: No way. Don’t forget you scored 94-95.
Sasha: Right, because I didn’t enjoy the wine.
Gary: God Bless.
Sasha: It’s good.
Gary: It’s good, it really is good.
Sasha: Yeah.
Gary: It’s complex.
Sasha: It’s complex.
Gary: What a minute you’re looking at your clock on. You just try and go back in that.
Sasha: Yeah, I want it one more time.
Gary: Now you want to rinse.
Sasha: My granddaughter when she grows out and she is going to watch the set, she’s going to say my grandfather was an alcoholic, no I just enjoy a good wine that’s all, I mean a $8 wines, and $50 or $15 or $90.
Gary: And this is $94/95.
Sasha: Yeah, strictly because I enjoy this wine.
Gary: Style better.
Sasha: Style better, you know.
Gary: It makes sense why you like the Amarone.
Sasha: Right, absolutely.
Gary: Maybe you should drink like the Zinfandel I mean you like the fruit. Dad I’m being serious.
Sasha: My son every time, every time you have a chance to you know—
Gary: Not true. I love you with all my heart.
Sasha: Well I love you too.
Gary: I love you more.
Sasha: I don’t think so.
Gary: I think so.
Sasha: Excuse me, when you’re born I was also right there.
Gary: I was there too.
Sasha: Yeah, you didn’t know.
Gary: I knew exactly what’s going on.
Sasha: Do you think nature knows what’s going on?
Gary: Yeah, she’s very brilliant.
Sasha: Yeah, bottom line she’s start to look like you, big head.
Gary: Black hair.
Sasha: Well hair I think she’s taken the up to me, oaky, I think, yeah, you have what the big head and then.
Gary: Question of the day dad.
Sasha: I don’t know that’s a tricky question but.
Gary: It’s not a tricky question.
Sasha: Should I start my own show and I’m not saying I’m going to commit to five a days a week or maybe once a week with couple of wines and because Gary I just want you to know. Gary is considering to stop the show because he doesn’t have enough time.
Gary: That is so.
Sasha: No it’s true or it’s not I don’t know.
Gary: Do you think that’s true?
Sasha: Well you’re not being, you’ve been so busy.
Gary: Right.
Sasha: I don’t know how possibly.
Gary: Dad did I’m come to and say I’m going to do the show.
Sasha: Is it still running.
Gary: Go ahead.
Sasha: No he didn’t say that but he said I didn’t know if I have enough on a day to balance every thing that’s going on.
Gary: Did I mention the show being what’s cut out?
Sasha: Well.
Gary: I mentioned a lot of things that but did the show.
Sasha: No.
Gary: What are you trying to coup d'état and push me out.
Sasha: No, no.
Gary: You love the fame, you’re a fame. You love the fame.
Sasha: I learn from the best no, no but seriously.
Gary: Dad you can’t come here on Wine Library TV and tell them that I said that when I didn’t say that.
Sasha: Are you telling me I’m a liar?
Gary: No, but you’re creating innuendo.
Sasha: Let me ask you a question, are you going to continue a Wine Library TV show?
Gary: Yes.
Sasha: Forever.
Gary: I can’t commit to forever.
Sasha: Well what are you committed too?
Gary: Dad you’re not wiling to, you're not even willing to commit the Bobby having Saturday’s off and you want me to commit to the rest.
Sasha: Well if you different you can tell me, so what do you commit to?
Gary: I’m committing.
Sasha: I don’t want to put my son in the spot listen.
Gary: I’m committed to loving my family for the rest of my life and doing whatever I can.
Sasha: Okay.
Gary: But I can’t commit to the rest of my life for this.
Sasha: I understand, so what do you saying you were talking you know
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