Mike Wiegenstein: Okay, and again you have your model David here, and he is going to demonstrate for us.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Great.
Mike Wiegenstein: Please.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Alright, David. I'm going to put this up against your nostrils okay.
David: Okay.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: I'm not going to put it up you nostril with just against the opening that's all scary is it, and well I'm doing it and I don't want you to breathe just sit there only for couple of seconds.
David: I'm ready.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Right, so I'm going to just put this up against your nostril.
Mike Wiegenstein: Now that's checking with sound waves the structure of
Dr. Dawne Slabach: --
Mike Wiegenstein: Okay, and then this is the --
Dr. Dawne Slabach: This is the --
Mike Wiegenstein: Alright, everything seems to hooked up to computers, do they all take I mean is that and important part of what you are doing?
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Its important part of my practice.
Mike Wiegenstein: By that do you mean our people that cool and --?
Dr. Dawne Slabach: I'm sure there are, but the computer doesn't like as any objective data.
Mike Wiegenstein: How important this diagnosis do you think in your practice?
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Oh! Its vitally important does many other things that can cause in your air way you just sleeping and sores TMJ issues; we want to make sure that is something that's within my practice
Mike Wiegenstein: And you don't normally it's my understanding, you don't normally prescribe medicines for any other, she pretty much straight on using.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: I use appliances, we attack the structural problem, whatever that the roof cost.
Mike Wiegenstein: And by doing that you can fix it, so that they don't being got off the medicines?
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Most of the time yes, and one more test here David. Okay, just pinch your nose with your left again and breathe in and out for me. Okay, how you breathe right there, beautiful, super.
Mike Wiegenstein: And then that's it?
Dr. Dawne Slabach: That's it.
Mike Wiegenstein: That's the whole test?
Dr. Dawne Slabach: That the whole test.
Mike Wiegenstein: And, so basically what you do is as you practice the science of sleeping and feeling better, by everything it seems to be run by computer programs, you don't think seem to guess too much.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: I don't like to guess.
Mike Wiegenstein: You may mention I have talk to few people that lot of people have TMJ also have sleep issues. They don't sleep well at night may be don't breathe you also treat sleep apnea or sleeping problems here because all part but the same try to ride in the same function. My understanding is if I got to a medical doctor and I'm diagnosed with any type of sleep disorder or as snore whatever, they are going to give me this.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: That's correct.
Mike Weigenstein: Like one version or another. This is called CPAP, and this constantly blows pressure on my arm, I have friends that have these, they don't wear them, because obviously you know this is very romantic, it makes noise on it was on. You told me or as made representation that you're able to treat 85% to 90% of peoples sleep problems obviously the saviors you they need CPAP this is cervical standard plate better than all appliance.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Correct.
Mike Wiegenstein: Explain that to why would anybody get this instead one of these?
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Well, that's been the gold standard, you just mention it what's been out there it works quite well, when it's warm
Mike Wiegenstein: Okay.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Especially for severe cases.
Mike Wiegenstein: I don't know
Dr. Dawne Slabach: I think that's just takes less than 20 % after a year
Mike Wiegenstein: So for 80% they don't work it off?
Dr. Dawne Slabach: There not, yeah because there were in there not working.
Mike Wiegenstein: And why if it is so my buddies that travel and I can't taken to the airport or they can't?
Dr. Dawne Slabach: A lot of times patients that are snoring one of the chief complaint that I get them in here as that David, they are sleeping in separate bedrooms this disturbing their because they are snoring, while then find out there sleep apnea and then put this nice mask on its making the nice snoring sound on like on they are still not sleeping in and snore around because of the noise.
Mike Wiegenstein: Okay, so tell me about what and again I told when we talked on the phone I would never thought to get with Denis, because I start although the mouth as you specially nobody tell me what you're doing and how it works because this looks for simpler, this is really what you people aware.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Right.
Mike Wiegenstein: Tell me how this works?
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Basically this is the two pieces appliance you take somebody who has lower jaws as back like this and typical overbite patient and appliances can like a retainer this particular design is two pieces
Mike Wiegenstein: So I get still eating open my mouth and drink water and I'm not lock them.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Right, brings the lower jaw forward.
Mike Wiegenstein: And success rate?
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Probably 80%, 90%
Sam Furbee: I was with my personnel doctors and she said how you sleeping that's I'm wake up every two hours and she said I'm going to give you a prescription or recommendation or referral to go to sleep clinic you test on. I said okay, and I went in stay all night, and sitting up there and the guy comes and he puts mask on my face and something and what it is just I did my lay down the whole night I just says I slept setting up and he said, yeah this can help so I'm want home they gave you $45,000 and sitting on the self I hated it. I ordered him, I finally moved out of the bedroom, my wife couldn't get sleep, she is a light sleeper, so I'm sleeping in the other bedroom, I'm not thinking like I'm sleep well, but my wife in the other room and I hate this and I call Dr. Dawne got an appointment and went to her program and back in the bedroom. I'm sleeping quietly, I'm dreaming.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: We take him through all of our testing, found that we could open his air way just by putting a mouth piece in and within just couple weeks we have mouth piece in his mouth, he has been much better results.
Sam Furbee: I ask Dr. Dawne's, why was I give this option at the sleep clinic, why wasn't this presented to me and my thoughts are they don't want somebody getting into the business, getting him on their business that's correct or incorrect that's with I first thought of it like what's going to help this person, what's going to make as money? It does work and so much simple in CPAP machine and we want to buy CPAP machine on --
Mike Wiegenstein: Thanks, thanks first of all for spending the day with me and let me interview your patients and talk to but I still, it still concern's me that everybody tells the same story. I mean everybody tells the same story they have been to multiple doctors, they done this, they done at they finally came to you, they got help and that all seem to gone help and this is so great and then work so well, why is it everybody do, why out doctor sending all our patients haven't done?
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Well, I think that we're talk very little and all of our professionals schools about TMJ, including in dental school. Physicians are talk very little, care practice are talk very little and unfortunately then this is well, so they don't know about it, its not there problem.
Mike Wiegenstein: Because you I believe I teach, do you not teach others about TMJ?
Dr. Dawne Slabach: I do
Mike Wiegenstein: So you probably able to little bit better understanding than most.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: I would think so I probably have studied that more in order to teach something it kind of really
Mike Wiegenstein: So should people ask there doctor if you have headaches for I mean that the list of headaches by around you vertical vomiting, back pain, neck pain you don't sleep, you snore, should they ask there doctor, can Dawne tell me or how they go about finding is qualified?
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Well, I think first of all they need to ask their doctor could this be TMJ they're starting to think that they have a TMJ problem, could I have a TMJ problem and depending on what the doctor says then go forward to find somebody. There is a lots of resources on the internet as far as finding people who treat this or there several organizations that I belong to that our group of doctors have treated much like trained much like I have to treat this.
Mike Wiegenstein: Those are obviously sleep apnea you said 70% or 80% of people with TMJ normally have a sleeping issue.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Right.
Mike Wiegenstein: And about the same number of people with sleep issue normally have a TMJ issue.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Right, they go hand the same problem and jaws in --
Mike Wiegenstein: So you could snore and think while I just don't feel good because I didn't sleep well last night or whatever and it could all be in your joint.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Right.
Mike Wiegenstein: And it's not that big deal to fix this I'm the right person, so what would you tell people, if just to go and checked I mean what should they do?
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Well, I'll think first persons to seek health from their own family doctor, their own family dentist with them they already have a relationship, but I see plenty of patients coming to office, who come on referral they just find me in the yellow pages, find me on the internet think they have a TMJ problem they call me and I more than happy to see them what source they have to loose 30 minutes out of the day that might change them all.
Mike Wiegenstein: Now, I want to thank you again for taking the time to visit with me to explain this to me and to share your knowledge.
Dr. Dawne Slabach: Thank you so much.
Mike Wiegenstein: You are watching medical news network, I'm Mike Wiegenstein, time for further information on this subject or any other please visit our website at medicalnewsnetwork.info. Until next time I wish you good health.
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