Dr. Travis Stork: You are 100% in agreement always with empowerment of women.
Dr. Lisa Masterson: We always want to empower women and I think you know hospitals have really gone to an extent to try and give that to women. To make the laboring delivery units to make -- there’s a lot of birthing centers, help in the hospitals that I’ve been to where the bedrooms look better than my bedroom. And there's nurses there who do all the hands off, you don’t have the epidurals.
But we know that and we know especially, we’ve learned a lot from other countries that if you don’t file a labor properly you'll have fistulous and things like that. So there’s reasons why we do interventions and you also, don’t want to have baby that’s born at home where the head stuck. Even when you do everything right, you can have a dead baby and a dead mommy and that’s the worst possible thing.
Dr. Travis Stork: As a non-obstetrician, I really respect if a woman wants to make that choice and they know the risks and they’ve educated themselves.
Female speaker: You have a choice?
Dr. Travis Stork: I absolutely feel like that’s appropriate. I have friends who’ve delivered babies at home and right, -- I completely agree with you.
Dr. Lisa Masterson: You can take a risk with your baby if you want.
Dr. Travis Stork: But again, yeah but we don’t want to judge when or make a choice that’s educated.
Female speaker: There are some people out there that feel that having a baby in a hospital is taking a risk. You know, because if you look at about half a percent of women choose to give birth at home. The infant mortality rates sky rocketing are getting up, is not because people are choosing home birth. Why are our numbers so bad, if we’ve all the technologies?
Dr. Travis Stork: It’s a great question.
Female speaker: I want to mention malpractice and the climate that we’re in and in this litigious climate that everyone wants to blame, everyone else and the obstetrician are being sued left and right, up until a is 18 years of age.
Dr. Lisa Masterson: Exactly which means that OBs are going to be ever cautious and you want your OB to be ever cautious. And I will personally go on record to say OB-GYNs don’t go on the business of thinking about their C-section numbers. We would rather not even keep track of rate because the answer to your best C-section rate is what is needed? And that’s what is medically required, because you want to save a life, you want to save a baby. So that is what we do. We stay up, we give our lives and we feel responsible for every mother and baby that we take care of.
Female speaker: And midwives, I want to say that also who are highly trained.
Dr. Lisa Masterson: Midwives are fantastic and I think they are fantastic and they should be in hospitals. In Germany, that’s how they do it and that’s the best way they do it. It’s the midwives that take care of the baby.
Dr. Travis Stork: I think that your emotion right now, is tied into the work that you do in third world countries and your passion for maternal and fetal will being.
Dr. Lisa Masterson: Well it’s not even third world countries I trying to count it, I have seen thousands and thousands and thousands of deliveries, I know what can happen. And you don’t want to see that happen at home and you don’t want to be responsible for the death of your baby or the death of your wife.
Abby Epstein: I had first thought Ricki was crazy and reckless to have home birth. But when I really studied and looked at studies that were done I also understood that you know a midwife who comes to your home to deliver baby is prepared for hemorrhage. They do bring petogen. They do bring oxygen. They do bring an IV.
[Cross Talk]
Dr. Lisa Masterson: So why would you put yourself at increased distance.
Dr. Travis Stork: You want to play a mediator here. Things are about to get very passionate. Don’t go away.
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