You know religiously I want to believe people are fundamentally good. Yeah I think people, (a) I
think people are fundamentally good, and (b) I think people are fundamentally humorous. And
people fundamentally want to laugh. And you know if someone is not laughing, that’s the
exception. That’s perversion, because I think you can’t be turned from someone who likes to
laugh to someone who doesn’t, but I think it’s almost impossible to go the other way. I don’t
think no one’s ever met a humorless person who became a funny one.
No. you can learn the forms or whatever, and maybe you could even learn the form so well that
you can fool most people. But you wouldn’t be able to fool the genuinely funny people.
Of course.
Boredom, you know? And I think also just the, there’s such intense psychic pain just being alive,
and all this stuff going on around you and on top of you. And it’s suffocating. You know humor
is a release. It is joyful, you know? It’s like sex, but you can have it more often. It’s, yeah, it’s
like cheap sex. It’s like, you can do it all the time.
You know I don’t know. It’s sort of cliché to have a funny rabbi. You know every rabbi thinks
he’s pretty hilarious, or at least they do nowadays. In the, in the, in the old days, I think they,
they thought they, they were pretty serious. You know I don’t know. I could wax philosophical
and say, Well there is, you know comedy and religion are about some sort of aspiration or
something higher, or you know, to elevate us. And when we laugh, you know, our souls become
bigger. But I don’t think so. I think rabbis are smart people and I think smart people tend to be
funny. So maybe that’s the connection. By the way I should have been drinking coffee. But I
don’t. If there’s any connection whatsoever, you know I think there must be some connection
between religion and comedy because the people I know in comedy are either pretty religious or
and that’s the minority or they’re, they swing the other way completely and are rabidly atheistic.
So maybe there’s some emotional switch that gets clicked on either way.
That’s a good question. Comedy is a lot more self-aware. I mean audience is a lot more self-
aware. You know when I, you’re not just making jokes necessarily anymore. You’re making
jokes on jokes. And your jokes have reference to other jokes. And it might have been in the old
days, only other people in the comedy business would know these things; but now everyone’s.
We’ve got such a vast cultural backlog on DVD and everything that everyone knows every
Monty Python sketch. And everyone knows this and that; that we’re all kind of, we and the
audience are making references to, and winking at them from things that are 40 years old. And
that’s it. And comedy probably hasn’t changed as much as we think it has either. I mean that’s,
that, that, I can say, okay, we all have that reference point, but it’s probably in a small way not
that big a deal. And, and, that’s a good question, because I would say we still laugh at slapstick,
but we don’t as much. It would be very hard for, you know, to get away with something that’s
like as primitive as like an early ‘60s, Jerry Lewis movie right now. You just, you know even the
kids aren’t laughing at that anymore. I mean you got Mr. Bean. And that’s nice, and that’s nice
slapstick. But it sometimes seems more sophisticated. But that, that, that might just be because of
more of modern style. If you lived in a village and you didn’t have TV, and a clown came
through you thought that was the funniest damn thing you’d ever seen in your life. You know if
he fell on his butt? Amazing. If you got, you know, eight hours of TV everyday and you could
see amazing, you know you could see Marcel Marceau, and you could see Lenny Bruce, and you
could see whatever, whatever. The exposure makes you more of a critic, you know? If you’ve
only eaten peanut butter and jelly sandwiches all your life, you think those are pretty great. But
you know once you’ve tasted caviar, forget about peanut butter.
I don’t know. There’s an awful lot of it being produced. I think what we’re doing now, you
know, is an area where we’re going to see a lot of comedy produced just in smaller, just with the
Internet, sort of the powers given to people just to produce things. I mean we’re going to see
things on YouTube. You know we’re going to see people have a funny idea and shoot it on their
TV camera and get it out there that afternoon. But people are always also going to want to see
bigger, you know, more expensive things. And they’re always going to want to see sitcoms, I
think; or big, funny movies. You want to see something nice, you know. It’s like okay, YouTube.
That was a funny video that guy made, but I want a compelling story, too. You know people like
stories. We’ve always liked stories. So I don’t think comedy is going to change. Okay here. I
don’t think the foreign comedy is going to be all that different in the future. Now you know I
don’t know which way the world is going to go, but if the world gets darker, then the comedy
will probably become more darker or become more violent. We might be seeing some of that
now.
You know I don’t, I tend not to watch any comedy. Otherwise it would be my whole life. And
also you know, it’s so critical, it’s impossible just to watch anything and enjoy it, you know. So I
tend to keep away from it as much as possible.
I think it’s changing it for, it’s changing it. There’s really no telling. Yeah it’s better. It’s nice to
be able to have a DVD of funny stuff. And you know it’s nice to be able to go on YouTube and
watch these funny guys. But you know I saw these funny guys doing a David Blaine impression
the other day. That was funny. You know I got to watch that and now I don’t have to see it
anymore. But it’s out there. That R. Kelly trapped in the closet. Like that’s all great stuff, and its
there. And so that’s all for the good. This isn’t strictly about computers, but you know as a visual
agent, you know, written comedy is being non-existent. You know there’s, there’s a couple of
pages in the front of the New Yorker and that’s really it. So that’s kind of sad. But you know
there’s plenty to read if you want to.
I can certainly make fun of my people, and others can too. I mean I feel like I’m, not I’m, but I
think as a Jew it’s sort of a specific case, because there are a lot of Jewish writers. And we tend
to go to the Jew well a lot in comedy. And to be honest it’s really easy, and I don’t love that. And
to be honest it’s really easy, and I don’t love that. I think it’s a little too easy. You know
ethnically, I think I find a lot of comedy writers are Jewish and a lot are Irish. I’m not sure why
those two streams sort of came together, but you know, we tend to get along, so it’s nice. Can, I
think some Jewish jokes are very funny, and I think others are, you know, are just saying the
word Jew and expecting a laugh. You know and, and that’s easy. As far as other ethnicities go, I
don’t feel like anything should be out of bounds, you know? I just, you know I’m stridently, you
know, First Amendment, certainly Second Amendment, too. But I like all those amendments,
you know? And then again, but that said, if you say something offensive, you know, you can
expect to get your ass kicked. You should have the right to say it, though.
I think everyone self-sensors. I mean you think awful things. I’m sure you’re thinking awful
things right now. But you know we all think terrible, terrible, terrible things. So sometimes the
terrible things I think of are jokes. And so I don’t always say those out loud. I’m actually, I
probably self-sensor a lot less than a lot of people. And I’ve certainly said some terrible things
which I regret, but that’s okay.
I can’t say I think about, you know I would ask you, or I’d ask anyone is it easier for them to
self-sensor? Sometimes, you know do you walk around saying, I’m censoring myself right now?
No. But you aren’t telling to every beautiful woman how much you’d like to have sex with her,
or every attractive man the same thing if you find both of them equally attractive, you know?
You know has it become easier to self, I don’t know. I guess when you’re a kid, yeah, you say
anything you want. I’m an adult. Now I don’t. I would say it’s not any different for a comedy
writer or a writer in general than it is for anyone else. I think we are afforded more freedom. I
think I don’t, I think writers and comedians don’t have to sensor as much, I think. You know
we’re, we’re given that latitude. We don’t always use it that well, but we have it.
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