How to Be Single In France Part 7/7

Liz: Do you think that the number one flaw of marriage is that you get bored sexually? Yes. Roger Hermann: Yes because passion and desire are so strong when you’re young and it never goes away. Liz: Do couples come here and sometimes just have sex with each other privately or is it mainly to meet other couples? Chantal Hermann: No, not always to meet other couples. It’s just about what’s happening between the two of them. Eventually, they can decide to share their desires with other couples but in the beginning, they are just heightening what they’re already doing at home. Liz: One would say that you help marriages or help long term relationships very much but some might say that maybe there has been many relationships that have broken up here at 2+2. Chantal Hermann: It’s not breaking up couples because there is no logical reason for that. Roger Hermann: Well of course, when they come for the first time, they are okay with the idea but they need to figure out their own needs of rules and barriers and once they do, they feel free enough to return and really begin. Chantal Hermann: I really think it reinforces a couple. It gives them— Roger Hermann: It reassures them. Chantal Hermann: Yes and solidifies their relationship. Liz: So often after a night here, they probably go home more in love than they were before. Chantal Hermann: Yes. You are right. Liz: Yeah, yes. Do you get jealous seeing—you each other with other people? Chantal Hermann: Oui, oui, oui. Roger Hermann: Yes, sure. Liz: Oh, oh! And that’s part of the surprise, is that part of the surprise? Chantal Hermann: Oui, oui. Liz: It’s a motor and you say, so that is part of it? It’s not a bad thing, it’s a good thing. Roger Hermann: Yes because if you are not jealous, you’re indifferent which doesn’t bode well. Liz: You agree? Chantal Hermann: Oui. Liz: So it’s also—it’s not just desiring someone else, it’s seeing you partner be desired by someone else. Roger Hermann: When I see my wife with another man, I’m excited and jealous. The two feelings at once. Liz: It makes you excited to see your wife with someone else and it makes you excited to see your husband with some one else. Chantal Herman: Oui. Liz: You have had this club for 20 years? 20 years? And now can even this kind of sex become boring? Chantal Hermann: Normal. Liz: It becomes normal. I don’t have anything else to say. It’s fascinating, everybody is finding different ways to stay together. And because it’s difficult, it makes sense to me.