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The grip for the rise ball should be the same as you are screw balling your curve ball. In that way coaches standing in the third base coaching box that happen to see your girl the same girl that pitches they do not know what you are throwing and there is not advantage. Alright, the grip was two fingers next to the parallel lines on the ball, the parallel seams, I am slightly to the left of those seams, variation off of that, move these two fingers over, curl the pointer, can also tuck the pointer tight and extend that finger as you do your spin. You go up from the parallel lines on to the C or the horseshoe of the ball and you can also grip there. Now my finger tips touch the tapeline that is on the ball and you can see your tapeline go around better.
Another very good alternative grip, thumb on a seam, finger curled on a seam. Great grip right there. We have two pressure points; the thumb pulling backwards, the pointer pulling down and backwards. For some of my kids, it's really easy for me to draw where their fingers go on the ball. T is for thumb on the underside of that seam, P is for pointer, we bend it comfortably, we make sure it's on the side of that seam and the rest of the fingers following the place.
We get a lot of nice smooth spin with this grip. So a lot of pressure on that pointer and it does take some tolerance, you have got to build up some tolerance to what that feels like. Let's say you are practicing and that starts hurting, well you can just lay the finger down for a while and continue your drills. Found the spin, that grip that spins the ball the fastest
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