CBS MoneyWatch.com
Sneaky Credit Card Tricks
Jill Schlesinger: (Editor-At-Large, CBS Moneywatch.com) Recently credit card
companies had been handed a long list of consumer friendly rules to
follow but the card companies are already finding sneaky ways around the
new rules according to John Ulzheimer, Head of Consumer Education for
Credit.com. Hi John thanks for being here.
John Ulzheimer: Thank you very much for having me.
Jill: So alright we knew this was going to happen the card act is in the effect.
Are they really finding new ways to charge, increase fees for consumers?
John: Absolutely and look in the credit card industry in all fairness for 2 years
prior to the Card Act said we’re going to have to charge more to subsidize
the compliance with this act and guess what, they were being truthful
absolutely. The Card Act is going to cost the credit card industry
somewhere between $50 and $80 Billion that’s with a B dollars per year.
That’s enough money that they’re going to have to make that up because
it’s so significant and how are they doing it. Well we’re all subsidizing the
cost of the Card Act. New annual fees, the average interest rate on the new
credit card is up 100 basis points over the same period of time last year
which means that debt is now more expensive if we choose to revolve a
balance.
Jill: Yeah and at the same time when actually interest rates have remained very
low so that’s a double whammy right?
John: True.
Jill: So the other specific ways, this whole weekend charging thing. It seems
like the nastiest of ways to make money and now the credit card company
extensively are going to have to not do that weekend billing thing where
they can squeeze a few extra bucks but what are they doing to avoid the
new world?
John: Well the issue is as if your due date falls on the day that’s either a holiday
or a Saturday or Sunday traditionally days that banks are closed. Now
what they’re doing if we’re hearing that they’re keeping just a few
branches open just to say that they’re actually open on those weekends so
not all 500 branches but maybe a dozen or so just so they can say no, no,
no we’re actually open on the weekends so if your payment is not received
prior to that due date there’s a late fee.
Jill: How do you know if your bank is doing that?
John: Well you pick up the phone and you ask them “hey look I see that my due
date is on a Sunday, what am I doing here?” And look we have to be very
honest about this, consumers who run their bills up to the due date their
rolling the dice. Beat the due date by a week and then you’ll have to worry
about it.
Jill: And so credit card companies cannot arbitrarily increase the rates of
they’re charging us but they can do other things right?
John: Correct they used to be able to change the rate, anytime the any reason
without even notifying you.
Jill: Um-hmm.
John: Now at the very least they have to give you some sort of notice in advance
if they’re going to add an annual fee or they’re going to increase the
interest rate they’ve got to notify you 45 days in advance and if you
choose to you can actually opt out of the chain so if they’re going to start
charging you a 100 dollar annual fee you can say no, no I don’t want the
annual fee but they can also say fine we’re closing the account or we’re
going to accelerate the payback by increasing your minimum monthly
payment so it’s not necessarily or it’s a good thing to opt out of that
change because it may now make the payment unaffordable and we’ve
actually surveyed this and we found that about 97% of the people are not
reading those notices so even thought they’re getting them in the mail that
either shred them or trash them and then 45 days later they have now
sacrificed their rights under the card act and they end up with the new fear
of higher rate.
Jill: That was always my fear with the card act anyway so much of it was
about disclosure. There’s a lot of things that are disclosed, mutual fund
respect this is disclosed a lot but people don’t pay attention to it if you’re
still on the hook so we got to have consumers really aware of the
information that’s coming.
John: I fully agree with you.
Jill: Now alright, talk to me a little bit about the kids her are off to college this
fall and you know the one nice thing about the Card Act I thought was oh
excellent. You’re not going to see these credit companies and that
freshman week and getting all the kids signed up and that’s going to end.
Has it ended?
John: It has not really ended and the rule is this. If you’re under 21 it’s not as
easy to get a credit card as it used to be. This generation of kids who
started college this fall. This is the first vintage of college students that
can’t just go and open up a credit card really with no strings attached, they
have to either have a job or a cosigner in order to do so, so here’s what we
are hearing is going on instead of the credit card issue is being on campus.
They’re just off campus if the local eateries and local watering holes.
We’re also hearing that classmates or cosigning for other classmates.
Jill: Wow.
John: Absolutely so it’s taking a page out of the how do I get my beer, have the
guy whose 21 buy it for me, right. We’re also hearing and this is just
really terrible that student loans are being considered income.
Jill: What?
John: Because its paid to the student rather than directly to the school so we’re
hearing that that is going to be a possible loophole to this under 21 no
capacity provision.
Jill: Oh that’s ridiculous. If the IRS doesn’t send you a form it’s not income
that’s what I said.
John: I fully agree with you that’s right.
Jill: So with all the loopholes was the card act worth it.
John: You know I’ve got to give the card act a solid C plus. I think my
hypothesis was solid but they’re so many loopholes and it’s forcing the
credit industry to subsidize it and we’re all paying for it. Initially the folks
were paying all of these higher fees and higher rates for high risk credit
card issue or credit card users and frankly those are the people who should
be paying higher rates. They’re high risk but now we’re all paying for
more of the annual fees higher interest rates for everybody. I’m not sure
that’s fair, that’s argument for someone else for another day but at the end
of the day we’re not fully protected as we were promised we would be and
we’re all paying more for our credit.
Jill: Before we go the number one tip for credit users, what do they have to
absolutely positively do to protect themselves.
John: Well I think you have to be very, very honest with that little piece of
plastic in your wallet. The issue of that card is not your friend. They are
for profit companies. The due dates are not suggestions. They don’t care
about your excuse, they don’t care about story. They care about getting
paid so be very, very careful when you’re dealing with these guys because
they have the ability to wreck your credit for the next 7 years and make
everything else that you want much more expensive so take the terms of
your promissory note very, very seriously.
Jill: Words of Wisdom from John Ulzheimer thank you so much for joining us.
John: Thank you for having me.
Jill: And thanks for watching.
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