Jonathan Wills: I am going to be a bit careful of this subject guys because I've got three girls, six, four, and three, and you talk about the things you miss before and you get yourself into a deep voice here. But what I mean a big one for getting out of clubbing and buzz and stuff like that, I've always played a lot of sport and I suppose that was one of the things I thought really guilty about. The other thing is my chosen sport. I would naturally go and play automatically is cricket. That is the first thing which -- for start, I have to say I am interested in really understanding cricket, doesn't like the game as much as I do.
So I thought about leaving at 10 o'clock in the morning, see you at eight. Yeah, that's really going to go down well. So I mean that was the thing which sort of suffered a little bit. Again, in the last couple of years, on an average I back about 15 almost.
Kevin Day: Congratulations with the scooping. I feel this is a problem because Ed was a happy accident, we hadn't planned him. Both our careers was going really well at the time. This is the thing that most people said to me, it's going to be a problem, it'll be a problem for both of you because your lifestyles, you know, you've got quite hectic lifestyles, you go out a lot, it's going to -- all the things have worried me after Ed was born. That was probably the least worrying because we adapted quite quickly to it, having a day. Then for most it was a positive change. I think the one thing that really missed him having by which flexibility, because we were living a life where by at 10'o clock in night, you can suddenly say, hold this guy, I'll just do something.
So he was a little bit tiny but we missed, which is not bad in the great scheme of things. Being compensated by having a fantastic child in us, it didn't bother me because although yes I do miss our little bit but on the other side, Ed was fantastic. So it was a such a good things, it was such a positive thing. I find it difficult to actually think now, these nine years after if anything I miss too? I do miss really.
Damion Queva: I agree with you on that to a point wherein I didn't realize what I've missed until a couple of years later because that's funny thinking, hold a second, this is a nut.
Chris Brooks: Yeah.
Damion Queva: You know, he is really like, baby I feel like a man, you know, I had a child quite early so explain to us, how is life on the second -- responsibility now. So everything that mine makes me do at that time, which was party and being responsible and so still you know, chasing after the girls. I was like, I am here, isn't this what we all do. Then, you know, brilliantly, hold a second, maybe good to get back again. If I am really honest about, I think I just kind of look back every night and will it be great to drizzle -- there again and sort of like, can I still dance or whatever the case might be I think.
Chris Brooks: So you danced before?
Damion Queva: I was a really great dancer before. I was like, hold a sec, I am shopping, I won't do this anymore.
Kevin Day: I think that's -- say what's we didn't do, we missed doing things together because most of our social life was based around work anyways. I do a gig, then I was working three or four hours a week, and you stay on out for the giggling with comics and drinks and whatever. So we attended for the first couple of years, we hardly did anything together; I was touring for the six months of the first year. So my routing didn't changed drastically anyway. So I am Ally's answer would be different, I am sure she missed a lot more things if she was obviously tied down a lot more than I was but I think that's the biggest miss apart from that.
Chris Brooks: I think it's easier for us when we can go straight back to work a couple of weeks later.
Kevin Day: Yes.
Chris Brooks: And you sort of socialize at work, it's going to couple of - going to for drink out for night. But this one is not easy. So when you're sitting and often you gone for Chinese or saying --
Kevin Day: Yeah.
Chris Brooks: When that stops, that's really -- I found that really noticeable. You just can't do anything.
Kevin Day: Because I have to say, a lot didn't change, I mean we can still go out in the day buy you just have somebody else with you. So you just have to sort -- it just took you longer to gather the helps may be.
Damion Queva: I think our friends trying to do. I don't know if you was doing but our friends tried to change them out. So many of my sort of buddy-buddies and there is more family members and so kind of different kind of set, we start seeing around the table and they too.
Kevin Day: I didn't miss -- like all of you missed the -- I didn't miss anything. The compensation of the such for offer the noise the --
Damion Queva: I think we made a -- we also made a point with the offers tomorrow. We took him to restaurants.
Kevin Day: Yes.
Damion Queva: We had the people, we had the -- and she would be hold onto top of the table and we're like, that's lovely and tomorrow became a very social job because from the age of three or four, she was able to hold a conversation as well. So I think that was quite interesting. We find that really developed --
Jonathan Wills: We suffered a little bit in from what were you talking about before about actually not doing anything because we had our three quite circulus together. Often we didn't have any supports -- we didn't have the sort of the grandparents is from the corners in old day's lives. So like a major do, we'll organize a, sort of, baby sitting and we used to go out on. So those things are on your doorstep. So we had that problem. You didn't have to play, you got to say what you got reason, I'll stand look after the children, and that is just a recipe for an absolute disaster.
Kevin Day: Well, you mentioned about your birthday, grandparents. If people says, now what advice would you give? I'd say, make sure your grandparents are around the corner. My mom and dad, they were on the corner, it's a godsend. First two years, they was just fantastic. It did also mean every then and again, we could snatch a few hours together because we trusted them to look after him. We could actually grab a couple of hours together -- because when you are that young, you don't want to.
Damion Queva: Yeah. It's just like my mom is very protective, come on just leave the children.
Kevin Day: And also, when -- if I wasn't working, if I was -- again, I would be over the rope. Sometimes the last thing I wanted to do is to go out. I am perfectly happy just staring at the baby in the cooling condition.
Chris Brooks: So when we are talking about -- I mean my wife was talking about, that time we used to be out, just say, right, let's go out tonight. When we actually look today, that happen very rarely in our lives anyway. Before the baby, they are actually things that happened a lot more but it didn't.
Damion Queva: So what might be interesting is that you and I share the same sort of time as far as children is concerned. We have that quite big gap. I have found that so when our second child came along, I just sort of got into gulf, so I've still sort of had a sort of minor gap and then I still carried on -- I had my child get up extra early the first day, I get back very early.
Chris Brooks: You went to the first baby before you go.
Damion Queva: Exactly. Everything sets up back organized -- I had to release, I think that was important. So sort of with my second child, I made a point of making sure I didn't necessarily give that much gap.
Kevin Day: Did you do that because of your experience with the first child, or because you just became more mature anyways?
Damion Queva: I think yeah. More mature, more relaxed daddy, knew what to anticipate in terms of okay, you know what, when the children run around, they're going to fool over, they might just that more happens, you take these a lot easier and if you know that your wife is looking after things first half in the morning. When you come back from the office, you can't come back, put your feet up, you're going to take over, you let you do everything for the evening, if you kind of lose out you and your baby because you will do the -- and everything, you want to play, you want to roll around, and really sort of have little naps.
Jonathan Wills: To do wives do anything that they had to give up as well in some more space. Then you try to compensate and get them back out they're doing it again.
Chris Brooks: Catherine used to gym go a lot, which she is enjoying, she socialize there and now all our antenatal friends go to the gym and they do the mother work out, she loves that and making more friends and you said earlier, hanging around with people who have got the kids of the same age. So yeah, she is getting slightly back into that now.
Kevin Day: I'd say Ally really missed work. She's really missed that because she has always been a very hard worker in anyways, she volunteers herself for work because she is a freelancer, she -- not working but it was her forte working to the best of her ability and not being able to work. And also because you can't really - in her, there are a lot of people looking for jobs, because she is a freelancer, she was worried that she is out of the job market for years, so. She did miss work because she was enjoyed work. I think it's important for women to have an outlet as well when they go out, something else they can do. So she didn't miss the social life too, which she did, of course sometimes I too do. It's strange because for most people work, if it will not be a big compensational grab and I used to work for you.
Jonathan Wills: But this is right, as for you saying as well about -- when you look back on it. It wasn't as if you're going out but and I always remember looking back, oh god we never go to the theater anymore and I think --
Chris Brooks: Exactly, it's just a fantasy movie.
Jonathan Wills: Or art galleries.
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