Understanding Grave’s Disease
Dr. Travis Stork: Joining us is Dr. Don Kikkawa from UCSD Shiley Eye Center who
performed Sibylle’s operation to fix her protruding eyes. Thank
you sir for being here.
Dr. Don Kikkawa: Thank you for having me.
Dr. Drew Ordon: Welcome.
Dr. Travis Stork: So other than Sibylle, who is the right candidate for this type of
surgery?
Dr. Don Kikkawa: Well, years ago when this operation was described it was
considered very risky as I'm sure you can understand that. And
many patients were told, “Don’t do anything. Live with the
condition.” But in certain cases, patients that are severely
disfigured, they don’t look like themselves. They have shunned
their activity within their social circle because they can’t go out.
Another good reason would be the pain and pressure that people
feel from the eyes bulging out.
Dr. Drew Ordon: So what is to for it’s not -- it’s cosmetic obviously with that
bulging look but also there are symptoms with all that build-up of
pressure of extra tissue in fact, the globe.
Dr. Don Kikkawa: Right, the tissue build up here occurs in the muscles and the soft
tissue pushes the eye out. So yes, that does cause discomfort.
Dr. Travis Stork: You know people need to know this at home. Your eye bulging is
just one of the symptoms of Grave’s disease. Other symptoms you
might have, anxiety, irritability, difficult time sleeping, a lot of
times an irregular and rapid heartbeat as well as increase
perspiration and then the protruding eyes that we’re talking about.
Dr. Drew Ordon: Right, we don’t know exactly why but that extra thyroid hormone
circulating in the body has a direct effect on the eyes. And I want
you to check this out exactly what’s going on with the thyroid
gland, the so-called master gland, is producing too much thyroid
hormone. And it has a direct effect as you said on the soft tissue
structures in and around the globe that causes the muscle soft
tissue structures to enlarge and in turn that bulging look.
Dr. Don Kikkawa: You know the actual cause will start to be in the immune system
nowadays. And it’s kind of called the thyroid eye disease but it’s
somewhat of a misnomer. The immune system independently
attacks the thyroid gland and the eyes and causes the eyes to bulge.
Dr. Travis Stork: We saw in that model there, there will be really eye --
Dr. Don Kikkawa: It bulges out and some people have the thyroid gland remove but
yet the eyes can still have problems. So we know it’s immune
system that’s really the underlying problem.
Dr. Travis Stork: So Sibylle had this surgery with Dr. Kikkawa. Just five weeks ago
she’s already had some improvement in her eyes. Everyone is
excited to see Sibylle’s new results?
Dr. Drew Ordon: Yes.
Dr. Travis Stork: Alright now Sibylle, come on out of here. Hello. Welcome.
Dr. Drew Ordon: Well, you're welcome. You know this guy too.
Sibylle: Hi.
Dr. Drew Ordon: Nice work, have a seat right here.
Dr. Travis Stork: So I want everyone once again to look at you before and let’s
compare it now after the surgery.
Dr. Drew Ordon: Big difference and how are you feeling?
Sibylle: I feel great. It’s just wonderful. I don’t have any more pressure
behind my eyes. I don’t feel I have to use efforts to keep my eyes
close. I can just relax. What’s also very nice is I don’t have kids
pointing at me and telling me I have you know--
Dr. Drew Ordon: Bug eyes.
Sibylle: Yes.
Dr. Travis Stork: Everyone talks about the smile but the eyes are the other thing that
you look at the first time when you greet someone and if I were to
look at you right now I would never know that you had suffered
with Grave’s disease. I do want people at home to know that there
are certain situations where you need to pay attention. Family
history of Grave’s disease, women are seven times more likely to
get this disease if you smoke depending upon your age.
That certainly can be a risk factor so you’ve got to pay attention to
those potential risk factors. If there thus become a scenario, where
you suffer from Grave’s disease, but maybe you're not ready for
surgery, what steps can people take at home to deal with this?
Dr. Don Kikkawa: Yeah, unfortunately, there isn’t a whole lot. We want to protect the
eyes and make sure they’re moist. Often times we encourage the
cessation of smoking. That seems to be very highly correlated with
the worsening of disease. We ask that you use artificial tears to
lubricate the eye, elevate the head of the bed, use ice pack. But
more importantly just check with your ophthalmologist and just
make sure you're not developing the life threatening, vision
threatening problems that you can get with this problem.
And one thing about the gender predisposition, women are more
prone to getting it but when men get it, they usually get it worse
than women. So that’s important to know.
Dr. Travis Stork: So it’s certainly something that can affect all of us. Thank you Dr.
Kikkawa. Thank you so much for joining us.
Sibylle: Thank you.
Dr. Travis Stork: You look fantastic.
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