Gary Vaynerchuk: Hello everybody and welcome to Wine Library TV. I’m your host, Gary Vaynerchuk and this, my friends, is the thunder show, a.k.a. the internet’s most passionate wine program, and as you can see, the thunder show is pretty enough a little bit today with my guest, really great story, why don’t you tell the Vayner nation who you are and why you’re here?
Kristen Murphy: Alright, well, thanks for having me on. I appreciate that. My name is Kristen Murphy, and I am a Master Student with the Professional French Master’s Program at the University of Wisconsin at Madison. So can we, Mott, link it up?
Gary Vaynerchuk: Yes, Mott, can we please link that up? You have a specific link in mind for the school?
Kristen Murphy: Yeah.
Gary Vaynerchuk: You got that? Would you do that for only one reason? Because that is where Al Tune went to school and I’m a huge Al Tune fan so we will let you do that.
Kristen Murphy: Well thank you, I’m glad, wonderful.
Gary Vaynerchuk: And Wisconsin, isn’t this an interesting little quarterback in that school.
Kristen Murphy: Yeah, he’s just a little guy, number four.
Gary Vaynerchuk: It’s an interesting little thing that’s affecting me. Mott, I’m starting to look like you. You know if the Jets don’t lose and we do a Jets giant symbol we’re going to have a like a bear board.
Mott: We’re not going to be in the same room.
Kristen Murphy: Oh no, that’s going to be difficult. Alright, so I’m in my second year of this program, and so during the second year it’s not your traditional French Program, what you do is very dynamic. And so, you go abroad and you study and you do an internship abroad related to what you’re studying. I’m studying wine, French wine and globalization and now can compete on the global market. And so I got a fabulous opportunity and I got to work in Fronsac, which is an appellation in Bordeaux, and I got to work directly with the winemaker for three months, right before the harvest, during the harvest and after. So that’s my story.
Gary Vaynerchuk: So, you emailed me. You’ve been watching the thunder show for how long?
Kristen Murphy: About a year and a half-ish now.
Gary Vaynerchuk: And you emailed.
Kristen Murphy: Yeah, and I said, “Hey, this is what’s going on.” I met you up in Boston and came for the book signings, that was great and I kind of explained what was going on because it was before I left and so we talked, and you said, “Yeah, bring a bottle and come back.”
Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah, she basically put me at knife point so; you’re going to put me on the show when I get back. Yeah that’s right you broke a glass, I thought you were a crazy Patriot fan.
Kristen Murphy: Yeah, oh you know, no, no; only my dad, my dad, my family.
Gary Vaynerchuk: So we got two wines here, I think what was really fun is that we have a lot of different guests and I think that, since really passionate and focused and I think you came in with two bottles and we were kind of talking just now, we have one glassful of wines here. This is a great opportunity. I’ve been wanting to do more shows where we taste the same wine from a different vintage. So we got a real great opportunity and a really great opportunity for all you Bordeaux fans because here’s where we get into some neatness. We’ve got 2000 and two Anna 2000 vintage. This is the 02.
Kristen Murphy: Chateau Couraze.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Now, what’s really interesting about this is that, 2002 isn’t viewed upon as a very soft vintage.
Kristen Murphy: Here.
Gary Vaynerchuk: But in there, too. I mean it is not a vintage that they’re going to tell they’re really grand kids about, 2000.
Kristen Murphy: On the other hand,
Gary Vaynerchuk: Is a vintage that is really heralded here, really right up there with 2005, is definitely the best in the new millennial. Probably in the ballpark of this seven rink vintages that are going to come out of somebody’s mouth, you know eighty two sixteen one forty five. Big time vintage, a little bit more here in the states than it is in Europe. Here, because they were very big and bold American style, but two very different vintages within a very short period of time that have been viewed upon by the Bordeaux critics and by the serious Bordeaux wine drinkers of the world as pretty much opposite on the scale, 2002, widely considered by most people who drink Bordeaux wine, the worst vintages in the last, probably since ’92. I mean really way, way up there as a core vintage in 2000.
Kristen Murphy: But not as bad as 2008.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Well, yes or no, we haven’t talked about that, I guess and 2000 on the other hand, right up there with 2005 probably had a 96 and 95 as an overall vintage. I mean totally one of the best so one of the worst in the last 20 years, one of the best in the last 20 years. However, and I think you’d probably experienced this as well. I’ve had many occasions where I’ve had this kind of scenarios and vertical tasting where vintages that were not considered as great have done well sometimes eclipsed. I remember Vivile a very serious ’97, ’98 Napa Valley blind tasting that I went to, again, similar scenario, ’97 right up there with ’94, ’91, ’98, pooper scooper, like one of the worst vintages from Napa, everybody said spectator crap all over it for lack of a better word. And with the 17 serious professionals there, there was 13 of 20 wines of the ’90 vintage have scored a 97. Now, a moment in time, softer vintages tend to drink better younger, so there’s a lot that can go into it, but we’re going to break this down and we’re going to give the Vayner nation a great a good back-story about these guys, what they’re about and toast some little bit about them, 2200 on the left.
Kristen Murphy: So, alright, thank you. So, the issue with this is that, this is exported. This is owned by a Danish company; and so all of this wine gets exported to Denmark. So you can’t find it in France except in my internship supervisors wine cake. And so, I mean it’s all difficult to find but it’s a good experience because this is different. This is a different type of Right Bank Bordeaux because it’s on Limestone clay soil, oh I forgot, I need to get you the rocks.
Gary Vaynerchuk: You have rocks?
Kristen Murphy: I have rocks. I’ve got rocks.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Oh, yes. There are no rules here. Oh, what have you brought to show?
Kristen Murphy: But I’ve got rocks because I was working in the vineyard.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Very nice, so you’re trying to won up Jeffrey Davies.
Kristen Murphy: Well, yeah.
Gary Vaynerchuk: I’m impressed with that.
Kristen Murphy: Yeah, exactly. I like to watch that show.
Gary Vaynerchuk: I know you did. Are you challenging Jeffrey Davies right now?
Kristen Murphy: I don’t know if I want to do that. I’m just trying to get into the wine world right now.
Gary Vaynerchuk: You know what, let’s link up Jeffrey Davies’ episode. That’s a pretty good classic for a lot of vayniacs who haven’t seen it, Mott?
Kristen Murphy: I even left some mud on there so if you really wanted to taste it.
Gary Vaynerchuk: I just got a new cloth, that it was clean, it was orange, and now--
Kristen Murphy: Friends have to dirty it up.
Gary Vaynerchuk: I love the rocks.
Kristen Murphy: Yeah, are they good?
Gary Vaynerchuk: What was great about this in the way of a He-Man toy here, you like those stuffs. They’re so much great stuff, ladies’ minis. Alright, so--
Kristen Murphy: The difference is, okay, so limestone soil, but as most Right Bank Bordeaux are, they’re mostly Merlot. But this is different. This is 70% Cabernet Sauvignon
Gary Vaynerchuk: Consistently?
Kristen Murphy: Yes.
Gary Vaynerchuk: I mean, and if they feel they have a better Merlot vintage they wouldn’t blend it, it’s because of the vineyard?
Kristen Murphy: It’s small, yes, three hectares.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Yes, okay
Kristen Murphy: And 70% Cabernet Sauvignon, 20% Merlot and 10% Cabernet Franc. So, it’s different.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Yes, for Fronsac. I mean that is just—when you said it before when I was walking it’s like, “Really?”
Kristen Murphy: There’s nothing like it.
Gary Vaynerchuk: I mean, it’s almost every producer in Fronsac is going to be a Merlot-based producer so this is a little bit of an anomaly.
Kristen Murphy: But they like Malbec, there’s a lot of places that use that.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Now this is a Danish company that owns a big conglomerate, big company.
Kristen Murphy: Not huge but large enough.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Large enough to buy a vineyard.
Kristen Murphy: Oh yes, definitely.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Do you know this question? Did they buy this vineyard in theory to export in mainly to the businesses, right? Was it the same name? Did they change the name?
Kristen Murphy: I think it was the same but I’m not sure.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Understood, and it’s sold in big supermarket chains?
Kristen Murphy: And again I don’t know. I think right now it’s kind of in warehouse and so they’re waiting to bottle some more and bring it back up.
Gary Vaynerchuk: But it’s been actively selling in the Danish market?
Kristen Murphy: I believe so, but I’ve never been to Denmark.
Gary Vaynerchuk: You’re not positive? Do you know what the suggested retail or what this, kind of wine sells?
Kristen Murphy: Because it’s in the kroner they use in Danish but Benoit, my internship supervisor told me it was around 8 euros.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Okay so not a very expensive wine by any special imagination. Alright cool, so what do we have on the left, we have 2000—
Kristen Murphy: Yeah, just don’t forget
Gary Vaynerchuk: I can’t tell just by the color.
Kristen Murphy: Yeah.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Alright, so let’s get into this now. Mott, I think this is kind of interesting, you could zoom in here. On the left I have the 2000 and on the right I have the 2002. Actually you know what Mott, it really comes through here. Let’s see if we can really see more on the sides. You could see that it’s a lighter style. Can you get across on the camera, Mott? Kind of, sort of, you know what? Hold on. Let’s get real serious, I’m getting white piece of paper.
Kristen Murphy: Oh, okay, yeah.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Can you give them some more fun facts about the winery.
Kristen Murphy: Fun facts about the winery, well it’s three hectares. There are five different parcels around the area. It’s all in the village of Saillans very tiny, but there are a million different vineyards in this town. It’s nothing but, can you see the color?
Gary Vaynerchuk: I don’t know, I’m playing around with it a little bit. I mean there’s like a really distinctive class.
Kristen Murphy: Yeah I know, the 2002, you can roughly tell like, there’s a lighter--
Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah, no question. I mean even just now, I mixed up my hands so I can go with that so that I can tell, and there’s a little bit more brownish thing going on, do you see that, Mott? I see much bigger brown.
Kristen Murphy: Well, it’s beige, too.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Mott, well, pick up the camera, I have an idea here.
Kristen Murphy: Make it work.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Let’s just go on top, yeah. This is where I really see the angle, so you can really, yeah you can see. This is it, bingo! We got it, awesome
Kristen Murphy: Sweet, action-packed episode.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah, we’re moving around with our own box, we got He-man, we got a guest, so let’s be honest. It’s time to step up on the thunder show and I think we are. We’re doing great.
Kristen Murphy: Well, thanks. I’ll just say I’m humbled to come on after all these wine VIP’s when I saw them coming on I’m like, “No way, I’m going on after them.”
Gary Vaynerchuk: This is a pretty big time for us but you know what I mean, you’re much more VIP than I am so you’re in good shape. Mott is the biggest VIP really.
Kristen Murphy: Oh, yeah. True.
Gary Vaynerchuk: When I’m with him and I go outside, people just run right by me and start ripping his clothes off for autographs.
Kristen Murphy: Is that true?
Gary Vaynerchuk: It’s true, Mott, when we do events, because I’m much more accessible. I answer my e-mail, I’m very busy. I’m out there, hugging the babies. Mott, he’s a little more private and so when they see him on. I’m like a beautiful bird that you see all the time. Mott is like a kangaroo, you don’t see him that often and then when you see him it was like, “Oh, my god!” Alright, so, I just can barely breathe, alright let’s get into this. I think we should try the ’02 first because it’s a little lighter and let’s see what’s going on here. Actually, we’re just going to smell by the 2000, that’s how I like to do it
Kristen Murphy: Yeah.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Wow, pretty neat wines right off the bottle. I thought you have changed, I was about to start with the vegetal component with it, too and that’s why it tastes like 2000 which makes this seem like fruit candy vegetalized.
Kristen Murphy: Yes, that’s what he said. The 2002 is more fruity, but 2000 is something that you could keep in your cave for a while and aged.
Gary Vaynerchuk: So, yeah, I mean, you know, again, the 2002 on the nose, on the bouquet, what are you picking up?
Kristen Murphy: Yeah, it’s definitely got that vegetal attack but, you know all these wines I smell are sort of like minerality because of this. It’s the rocks, you get that taste.
Gary Vaynerchuk: You’re smelling the terroir, the land.
Kristen Murphy: Yeah, that’s right.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Now, what I’m getting close from this is a little bit of like a kirsch kind of component subtlety. There’s a little more fruit coming through; of the initial smell, actually had a little bit more vegetables, that will pop in just a couple of whirls that blows off and that happens commonly. I definitely get some greenness but it’s kind of light now it’s almost becoming a little minty to me.
Kristen Murphy: To me, I just get more leather, like a bit of leather, like subtle leather
Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah, I think you’re right. I get those as well. I get a little baseball mint, little wacky-old and just like your grandfather’s mitt because your parents would have wanted to but you a new mitt, or maybe bought in the garage sale so you can really get a, I mean you can really close in.
Kristen Murphy: You don’t need to oil it.
Gary Vaynerchuk: No, I also get some black cherries coming through which I think are quite neat. There’s also a very significant smell of like basement. You know just like or like a few antique, like I did for a while with AJ and we made trade cash on e-bay and we have seen some of this. Anyway, it smells like just an attic, or no, more of a basement because there was dampness to this nose. Let’s give it a whirl.
Kristen Murphy: Yeah. Definitely marks acidic on the end.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah, there’s a good amount of tannins. It’s a thirty old world which is great. I love that.
Kristen Murphy: Yeah, very.
Gary Vaynerchuk: I get oregano, basily kind of green, kind of thing going on there which I like.
Kristen Murphy It’s got that herbaceous smells on this.
Gary Vaynerchuk: No question, it’s definitely very herbaceous. I also get a very nice medium body blind, and you want to call this very heavy even though it’s 70% Cabernet, if I was tasting this part, I would almost go towards more of the Merlot stuff. One, if I know who the front saga would guess that, but two, it’s a medium body play to me. But it drinks well. It’s very serviceable, I think, it’s a neat little wine. To me, it’s definitely somebody who’s looking for old whirl flavors. The Cabernet Franc is very pronounced in this wine, for only 10% it’s either very good quality Cab Franc for the rest of the 90% is not quite as good because the Cab Franc really shows it’s raised here. For me, on the herbaceous premium kind of stuff, it almost has the water that meets Bordeaux-like characteristics to it. I think it’s fairly well made which I liked about it. The finish is almost short.
Kristen Murphy Yeah, but it’s too nauseated so what can you do?
Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah, it finishes a little short, it’s definitely just a medium body play. I liked it because this is the style of wine I like, but if I was evaluating it, I think it’s the kind of average effort. You know, it doesn’t really blow me away. The far majority of you that are watching the show I think are not going to like this wine. You know, to me, from scoring on the show, to me this comes across as an 81-82 point wine. I mean it finishes really short. I can get away with drinking this wine because again I really like dirt, and I really like veggies. But even for that, there are a lot of $15.00 to $20.00 Cabernet Franc wines that do a lot more for me that’s why the mid palate is kind of hollow and the finish is very short. And it doesn’t leave you with a whole lot other than if you’re an Old World drinker you’re just going to find this solid. If you’re a New World drinker you’re going to find this bad. Do you see what I mean?
Kristen Murphy: No, no, no, it’s not my particular favorite but I can see whereif you’re drinking semi or if you’re drinking any sort of Zins, don’t touch it.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah, I think it’s definitely. Let me break down what I think about this wine in comparison to white California wines and Australia wines get beat on, sometimes you hear people kind of like, you know when Johnson was here, you’ve taken a little ribs, a lot of California wine in this price range which really come into about a 12 or you know 11 dollar retail or I don’t know if yours is a wholesale or not. Let’s just call $10.00 to $20.00.
With a far majority of French wine and I think Italian wine is starting to lose this, Spanish wine doesn’t have it, where I think the French wine and I’m more totally generalizing, of course. That’s baloney, you know that; but where a lot of wines from the Old World, they really have a sense of different flavoring. Their sense of place has a different style. There are so many wines in the New World, and I include Spain to that, from 10 to 20, they just start tasting the same. You know, if we’re going to do blind tasting of California Cabs 10 to 20, the far majority is just tasting the same and I think even when you have a Clunker which I really think this is, at least you get the experience. There’s something different and that’s how it comes in.
Kristen Murphy: Yeah, that’s too bad. It was 2002.
Gary Vaynerchuk: I was generalizing. There are so many California wines that have their own charisma in that price point, but the far by percentage majority though, but alright let’s see what the 2000 does, much darker right at the top, much more pronounced bell pepper component. I mean this is loaded with green peppers. I mean just gold as cold food right now, snap one amd a half and smell it, that’s what’s going on, but don’t get caught. Just don’t make any trouble.
Kristen Murphy: Yes, careful.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah, a lot of bell peppers. You said earlier that you know when we were talking another thing on air, you did a vertical from—
Kristen Murphy: 2003 to 2008
Gary Vaynerchuk: And what did you see? Did you see a wide variety of things going on there? Not really saw similar style.
Kristen Murphy: It was a similar style but everything had the backbone of the calcium mineraly taste; everything that I have had, but I mean, even the 2003, I mean and that’s just like—
Gary Vaynerchuk: A hot vintage, remember we’re talking about. I think we’re dying, no air conditioning, so there’s a lot more fruit on that?
Kristen Murphy: The surprising thing was yes. There was fruit but the way it’s tasting was like a wine that was a couple years older. It’s been aging incredibly fast because it was so hot. But then the 2004 which was classic, our classic Bordeaux Vintage, it was tighter but it was very good. I mean it was just solid.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Let’s see about this, I think what we’ve here, this is a nice little segue, you grew up where?
Kristen Murphy: Massachusetts, St. Louis and Rhode Island so, a bit of everywhere.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Solid. Now, how was that experience to go to France and live in that environment, what do you feel from a three-month stint, right? What do you think is the biggest or top three take-a-ways. I think there are a lot of people who watched here. We have a lot of people in the aged group that might go do that kind of internship, or people that are, you know, we do contest; what’s the big take-a-way for you? Maybe three points of what you learned, even though you read and watched Wine Library TV for a year. You’re into this, you’re focused, but you don’t know until you taste it, what are the two or three things that you really come home now with saying, hah, or wow, that’s really the part that I’m going to live with?
Kristen Murphy: Yeah. Well, I was doing my research on French wine and I kind of have this idealistic notion that most Chateau or anything were owned by the little wine maker, but no; and that got shattered.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Whereas the romance of your bright book, you know. It’s much more marketing in business and not the kind of them that people think.
Kristen Murphy: Oh yeah, I mean, there’s an entrance company that owns about like ten different vineyards in Bordeaux. There’s Louis Vuittons, a couple of like again and so that was a quite of shock for me because I just, you know, kind of, “Oh yes, well.”
Gary Vaynerchuk: The romance
Kristen Murphy: Yes, exactly
Gary Vaynerchuk: Okay, so shocked the earth that it was business as usual, okay what else?
Kristen Murphy: Yes, and how hard it was and kind of that feeling of defeat after. It was almost, it was weird. It was defeat but also elation because right after the harvest, all of the grapes were gone, and all of that work that I’ve done in the vineyards and everything was gone, and it was almost it felt like it was done for nothing; but it was. I mean obviously if you raised good fruit then you make good wine. But it was just kind of I never expected that, yeah
Gary Vaynerchuk: When I was, when you worked out and you didn’t see it, you felt empty. There’s an empty man? That kind of syndrome, but how about when you saw it on the bottle?
Kristen Murphy: It was exciting. It was kind of a head on.
Gary Vaynerchuk: It’s emotional roller coaster.
Kristen Murphy: It is. It’s insane.
Gary Vaynerchuk: That’s funny. So you look at your video one day and you would just like--
Kristen Murphy: Yeah, now looking across and you know, I’ve done all this work. I’ve taken the leaves away, the effiage from the grapes so that they could mature evenly and faster and just seeing that all that I’ve done, I’d slaved away and you know, there in the hot sun and it was done. And so, just a thought, but—
Gary Vaynerchuk: Very cool. So those are the things that really stand out.
Kristen Murphy: Yeah.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Cool. Alright, let’s get into the 2000; bell peppers, very green, very, very green, very vegetal.
Kristen Murphy: Like a pencil letter or something. It seems like little—
Gary Vaynerchuk: Graphite, yeah. I get that quite a bit. I also get a little; actually I get a lot of that. I get a lot of pencil whirls, you know, kind of action you know a little; and ironically it’s a good way to put the ass pencil whirls because I do get a little like shattered stick, so for the little stick, little asshole wrap binding kind of, lots of pepper, loaded.
Kristen Murphy: Well, they will.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Let’s give it a whirl.
Kristen Murphy: Definitely that’s fruity on the last one.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah, no question but there’s more complexity on the mid-palate. I get a black pepper. I almost get a bit jerky with like heavy black pepper. I get a little black pepper thing going on.
Kristen Murphy: No, it’s got that gamey.
Gary Vaynerchuk: It is gamey, it’s a little venison action. It’s nice. It’s got black fruit; but again, what I’m disappointed with is two things. One, very hollow mid palate like no transition flavor and a short finish, that’s kind of like, you know, riding for me on this. I like this wine more, but it’s still not crushing me.
Kristen Murphy: Would that even have, I can bring you 2005?
Gary Vaynerchuk: Is that the one you realize? Are these some of the earlier vintages where they were really getting their feet wet? And so like even with 2000 was the great year they even have this
Kristen Murphy: Yeah, it was hard. They’re trying but they were trying to renovate the cellar as well so, it’s just kind of a bunch of different things going together.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Do you feel ’05 was really the turning point for the winery?
Kristen Murphy: I think so, yeah. Yeah, I think so.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Anything else you want to add to this wine? You can definitely feel the life on the palate. There’s definitely more viscosity on the mouth which I like. And I love the greenness. I mean, I’m always gravitating towards green, you know, but—
Kristen Murphy: The only thing, too is this has only been open for an hour in the bottle
Gary Vaynerchuk: Yup, that’s a good point, I mean.
Kristen Murphy: I mean we’re not eating it with food.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Yup, no question. I mean, listen; this is why scoring wine and how people look at wine is so ridiculous. It’s really the moment, right? I mean, look, you hang out with me after the Jets beating the Titans, I’m a much more happy boy and this fun and everything’s exciting, so there’s a lot of different scenarios. It’s moments and time and that’s why it’s so really silly to put scores by them, but I do so I’m a hypocrite.
Kristen Murphy: It helps people
Gary Vaynerchuk: I think every time I tried to quit on the show, I get bombarded with e-mails so that I won’t even deal with. To me this is an 86 to 88 point wine. I like it. Let’s go 87 points on this, solid effort, and if it isn’t that eight to ten year of range, I mean that’s a pretty got darn good value Bordeaux. It’s a little bit more drinkable, and that’s a lot of fun watching it evolve and I agree with you. I think another hour or so will be interesting; but I don’t think in an hour or two breathing, to be honest with you that it’s going to gain length on its finish. I just don’t think so.
Kristen Murphy: Yeah, that’s a wine thing.
Gary Vaynerchuk: And that to me is really, the hot hollow mid palate can come together plus it’s kind of tricky thing to spot the lack of length on finish. To me, it’s so imperative, people want that. They look for it; but it’s solid wine, I don’t mind it. None of you a little US soil, huh?
Kristen Murphy: No, not at all, which is unfortunate to me.
Gary Vaynerchuk: How illusions of touch have you gone for this brand?
Kristen Murphy: Oh very much, well, I mean it was the family. I was living with the family so I mean, I’m in everyone. I was part of them, you know every weekend
Gary Vaynerchuk: Do they make you throw out the trash and stuff?
Kristen Murphy: Yeah, I did that a couple of times, you know, played with their kids and so, yeah I mean just for me it’s there.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah, it’s there. That’s the whole beauty; you know the corporate side and all that is probably the, but the people that are involved.
Kristen Murphy: His boss is very, very nice. I got to meet him.
Gary Vaynerchuk: I’m sure, she got to put that in mind, you know she is in control.
Kristen Murphy: No, they’re really, really great.
Gary Vaynerchuk: Okay, well you know the drill, right? Fire a way, question of the day.
Kristen Murphy: I know the drill, oh yes, alright. So, I saw this and I thought that was kind of amusing because I kind of planned ahead because I know. So my question of the day is, “if for one day you could do your dream job, what would it be?”
Gary Vaynerchuk: We’re like; we’re on the same page, when I was rating with them, thank you so much for being honest. Did you have fun?
Kristen Murphy: Thank you, I did. It was lovely.
Gary Vaynerchuk: You, with a little bit of me, we’re changing the wine world.
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